My Schooldays: Dorothy Paul
Source: The Scotsman (Edinburgh, Scotland)
Date: 25/10/2000

Where did you go to school?

I went to Alexandra Parade Primary School in Dennistoun, and Whitehill Senior Secondary, also in Dennistoun. They were excellent schools, but in the primary school I got the strap on the first day I went in. I was only four, and it was because I was talking. My teacher Miss Brown, a grey woman with a bun in the back of her head, said: "What were you doing?" I said, "I was talking," and she said: "Come out here." So I thought it was because I'd done something very special. Then she said: "Hold your hand out," and I did, and I got the strap.

Did you like school?

Well, that first day put me right off. I have no recollection at all of learning my A,B,C's in that first year, although I must have learned it. But after that I had very good teachers. In high school I didn't want to go, but I was more or less sent, with everybody's old clothes on. And, oh my God, I can remember the sense of humiliation; everybody else had new stuff, and I had all the old hand-me-downs. Basically, I think I was a wee snob. There's nothing worse than a working class snob.

Did you ever get into trouble?

Oh yes. I was always getting into trouble. I remember in 1947, at the primary school, it was a very, very bad winter, up to your ears in snow, and we were dying to play in the snow. I said to my friend: "Look at that old lady trying to get up the snow, let's help her up the road." It was a ruse not to go to school, and we were about an hour late. When we got there, the teacher asked, "What were you doing?' We said, "Helping an old lady up the snow." She said, "Right, hold your hand out."

I got the belt left, right, and centre. It became the norm. I got the belt at least three times a week. It was not really conducive to inspirational teaching.

What subjects were you good at?

In secondary school I liked English, French, and I liked Art. I still speak reasonable French. Maths was my worst. I could never get more than 20 per cent, because I didn't understand it. It's still a closed book, and I wish it weren't, because I think to learn maths, and then go on to do physics, to be able to understand how numbers can tell you what the world is about, is just amazing.

What did you want to do when you finished your education?

I really wanted to go to arts school. That was my thought. At that time I was coming home from school and practicing singing and piano for hours on end. But I finished school on the 23 December, and the next day was Christmas Eve, and I started in the C & A in Rose Street in Glasgow. I used to wake up crying sometimes, because I wasn't still at school. Because I realised in a kind of a subliminal way, that education is the way to get the biggest slice of the cake socially and every other way. I eventually went back to Clydebank College at the age of 43. I broke a record at the college because in two and a half months I got a Higher English and a Higher History. It was life-changing. Had I been able to afford it, I'd have gone to university, but I had two children and couldn't do it. It's been my regret that I wasn't well-educated. Both my daughters have two degrees each, and that has made me very, very happy.

Are there any teachers you particularly admired?

I had a marvellous French teacher, Miss Cameron, who came to see one of my shows. I invited her, because I'd heard she was still alive. She came around back to see me, and I said: "Oh, Miss Cameron, you inspired me, you were wonderful, you were just amazing." And she said: "I'm so glad, but I must say, I don't remember you." But it didn't matter that she didn't remember me, because she was still an excellent, inspiring teacher.

What important things have you learned outside your formal education?

It took me a while to learn just how to be a successful human being. Education doesn't teach you to be rounded. A well-functioning human being is someone who lives a total life, who does many, many things. And that's what I have learned throughout my life.

Are there any aspects of your education that you wish had been different?

I just wish that I'd been cleverer. I think I was intelligent, but I didn't get the hang of it when I was at school. Had I not been a frightened kind of child, I might have got more out of it.

* Dorothy Paul was born in Dennistoun in 1937, and became a comedienne, performing in the One O'Clock Gang and The Steamie. She will appear in this year's pantomime, Dick Whittington, at the King's Theatre, Edinburgh in December.


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